Comments on: To The HMS Tireless http://just-thinkin.net/2007/03/to-the-hms-tireless/ Just Another Human Bean Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:13:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7-beta3-9791 hourly 1 By: Kirk M http://just-thinkin.net/2007/03/to-the-hms-tireless/comment-page-1/#comment-18592 Kirk M Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:16:42 +0000 http://just-thinkin.net/life-as-a-veteran/to-the-hms-tireless/#comment-18592 MM1/SS Bert & Mel, Welcome to Just Thinkin' to the both of you. Glad you decided to provide a bit of info here. As an old Cold War submariner, safety on board any of our subs runs 200% overkill or better and O2 candles were always inspected by date and lot number plus a cursory visual inspection before allowed on board and a thorough recheck before put into use. Even with all that no one was ever comfortable using those damn things. There were only a couple times we had to use O2 candles during my time on board my boat and everyone was on edge until we were able to douse them. And bringing the perpetrators to justice? I have to agree that probably nothing will happen but it's still a hanging offense (without the short drop, just haul 'em up and let 'em choke). My hat will always be off to HMS Tireless crew. MM1/SS Bert & Mel,

Welcome to Just Thinkin’ to the both of you. Glad you decided to provide a bit of info here.

As an old Cold War submariner, safety on board any of our subs runs 200% overkill or better and O2 candles were always inspected by date and lot number plus a cursory visual inspection before allowed on board and a thorough recheck before put into use. Even with all that no one was ever comfortable using those damn things. There were only a couple times we had to use O2 candles during my time on board my boat and everyone was on edge until we were able to douse them.

And bringing the perpetrators to justice? I have to agree that probably nothing will happen but it’s still a hanging offense (without the short drop, just haul ‘em up and let ‘em choke).

My hat will always be off to HMS Tireless crew.

]]> By: Mel http://just-thinkin.net/2007/03/to-the-hms-tireless/comment-page-1/#comment-18591 Mel Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:42:02 +0000 http://just-thinkin.net/life-as-a-veteran/to-the-hms-tireless/#comment-18591 It was indeed a candle that exploded, we have recently had a public enquiry report and its initial findings are frightening. It appears that the candles had a: been sent to a hazardous waste dump and then subsequently re-certified and b: stored in poor conditions for 2 months before being supplied to HMS Tireless, the poor storage turned out to be on the open dockside (cracks or grease can cause the candles to explode !!!). Worse still during the investigation they found more candles on the dockside that had been there for nearly 2 years and were due to be supplied to another submarine. We now wait to see if anyone will be charged with corporate manslaughter or anything realy, I don't think so somehow. It was indeed a candle that exploded, we have recently had a public enquiry report and its initial findings are frightening. It appears that the candles had a: been sent to a hazardous waste dump and then subsequently re-certified and b: stored in poor conditions for 2 months before being supplied to HMS Tireless, the poor storage turned out to be on the open dockside (cracks or grease can cause the candles to explode !!!). Worse still during the investigation they found more candles on the dockside that had been there for nearly 2 years and were due to be supplied to another submarine.
We now wait to see if anyone will be charged with corporate manslaughter or anything realy, I don’t think so somehow.

]]> By: MM1/SS Bert http://just-thinkin.net/2007/03/to-the-hms-tireless/comment-page-1/#comment-18590 MM1/SS Bert Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:10:37 +0000 http://just-thinkin.net/life-as-a-veteran/to-the-hms-tireless/#comment-18590 So how did an O2 candle cause an explosion, and they said it was the generator, that would bew more plasuable. Sorry for the loss, if it was the candles there needs to be a better way than using those dang things. Hats off to ya mates!!!! So how did an O2 candle cause an explosion, and they said it was the generator, that would bew more plasuable. Sorry for the loss, if it was the candles there needs to be a better way than using those dang things. Hats off to ya mates!!!!

]]> By: Mel http://just-thinkin.net/2007/03/to-the-hms-tireless/comment-page-1/#comment-2479 Mel Sun, 08 Apr 2007 20:36:27 +0000 http://just-thinkin.net/life-as-a-veteran/to-the-hms-tireless/#comment-2479 Thanks Much appreciated and he is determined at this time to continue but then I wouldn't expect anything different. The crew did a magnificent job and we are proud of all of them. Mel Thanks
Much appreciated and he is determined at this time to continue but then I wouldn’t expect anything different. The crew did a magnificent job and we are proud of all of them.
Mel

]]> By: KirkM http://just-thinkin.net/2007/03/to-the-hms-tireless/comment-page-1/#comment-2275 KirkM Mon, 02 Apr 2007 22:09:02 +0000 http://just-thinkin.net/life-as-a-veteran/to-the-hms-tireless/#comment-2275 Give your son my condolences would you? Being a submariner is never easy normally and although a tremendous amount of preparation and training goes into preventing just such an accident, the simple fact is that they do happen. Thankfully, not very often. Please tell your son I'm sorry he lost his mates and to carry on for them. I'll be keeping him and all the others in my thoughts. Give your son my condolences would you? Being a submariner is never easy normally and although a tremendous amount of preparation and training goes into preventing just such an accident, the simple fact is that they do happen. Thankfully, not very often. Please tell your son I’m sorry he lost his mates and to carry on for them. I’ll be keeping him and all the others in my thoughts.

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